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Hello, My name is Ing. Marián Marko and I have been running MarianGuitar mojagitara.com for a long time, which is free and free. In my tutorials I use a variety of guitar equipment, including MIDI foot controls.
I wanted to ask if I could get some discount on the purchase price and I have some questions about the M-18:
I use Kemper Profiler Stage and even though it is a floor version, I don’t like a small number of switches. I’ve tried several MIDI foot controllers.
1 / Is it possible to program and utilize the M18 so that in BROWSE mode the program change would be realized on all 18 switches and in Performance mode the predefined sets would be predefined by Control change 47?
2 / Is it then possible to define Bank UP and Bank Down for unsuitable external switches?
3 / How much would it cost to transport to Slovakia, and thus what could the price of an M-18 be with VAT?
Yes, I chose only one bank for All Access. Then I chose CC47 and gave each foot switch a different value, eg. 1 to 15 and since All Acess can have two positions in this mode, it is also possible to select another 15 ie. 16 to 30. Then the first switch has 1/16, the second 2/17, etc. to 15/30. I only mind the height and the small display.
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The new firmware will allow CC’s with data between 0-127.
So you will be able to program all switches with CC47 and a value from 1-18. But you can’t use bank up/down with CC’s, only with PC’s. You could have a second page, all switches PC going from 1-18. This is where bank up/down will work. Bank up/down can be programmed on 2 external switches. We have the new SW-2 which will work perfectly with the MX (€35)
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Nový firmvér umožní CC s údajmi medzi 0-127.
Takže budete môcť naprogramovať všetky prepínače pomocou CC47 a hodnotou 1-18. Ale nemôžete použiť banku hore / dole s CC, iba s PC. Mohli by ste mať druhú stránku, všetky prepínače PC idú od 1-18. Tu bude fungovať banka hore / dole. Bank up / down sa dá naprogramovať na 2 externých spínačoch. Máme nový SW-2, ktorý bude perfektne fungovať s MX (35 €)
And then the question:
If I have set BROWSE mode to Kempers, will CC47 and its values be ignored and only the corresponding Program Change will be switched?
Takže ak tomu dobre rozumiem s tým externým prepínačom SW-2 by bolo možné listovať vo viacerích stránkach MX-18. Každá stránka by mala hodnotu 1 – 18. Zadám CC47 a hodnotu 1 – 18. Ak prepnem SW-2 hor, budem zopínať hodnotu v podstate 19 – 36, ak znova zvýšim tak to bude 37 – 54 atd… do 125. A ak použijem na SW-2 bank down, tak to pôjde aj spátky. Tak to funguje?
A potom otázka:
Keď budem mať nastavený BROWSE mod na Kempery, bude CC47 a jeho hodnoty ignorované a bude sa spínať len príslušny Program Change?
Keď budem mať nastavený Performance mode na Kempery, tak bude ignorovaný Program Change a realizovaný len CC47 a jeho hodnoty 1 – 18?
Hi Marian,
I did some more tests yesterday.
In Browser mode the Kemper expects a PC. (and Bank Up/Down will only work with Browser Mode). In Performance mode the Kemper expects a CC47 + number and a selection of RIG 1-5 (CC50-CC54). You can send all these commands at the same time. As example:
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Ahoj Marian,
Včera som urobil nejaké ďalšie testy.
V režime BROWSER Kemper očakáva počítač. (a Bank Up / Down bude fungovať iba v režime BROWSER)
V režime Performance Kemper očakáva číslo CC47 + a výber RIG 1-5 (CC50-CC54)
Všetky tieto príkazy môžete odosielať súčasne.
Ako príklad:
This works. In this case CC47 and CC50 will work in Performance Mode and PC15 in Browser Mode.
But, CC50 (which is needed for performance mode) will shortly disturb the signal in Browser Mode. You don’t want that I assume.
There are several scenarios to solve this issue:
1. Remove the CC50 value and select the RIG on the Kemper Stage.
2. Or separate both Browser and Performances on separate Pages.
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Toto funguje. V tomto prípade CC47 a CC50 budú pracovať v režime Performance a PC15 v režime Browser Mode.
Ale CC50 (čo je potrebné pre režim výkonu) čoskoro naruší signál v režime prehliadača. Nechcete, aby som to predpokladal.
Na vyriešenie tohto problému existuje niekoľko scenárov:
1. Odstráňte hodnotu CC50 a vyberte RIG na Kemper Stage.
2. Alebo oddeľte BROWSER aj Performance na samostatných stránkach.
Then this would be Page A (BROWSER page). You can select 18 PC’s and use Bank Down by press-and-hold Button 6 or use External Switch 1. Bank Up works in a similar way with press-and-hold Button 12 or External Switch 2.
Press-and-hold Button 18 will bring you to Page B (PERFORMANCE page):
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Potom by to bola stránka A (stránka BROWSER). Môžete vybrať 18 rigov a použiť funkciu Bank Down stlačením a podržaním tlačidla 6 alebo pomocou externého prepínača 1. Bank Up funguje podobným spôsobom s tlačidlom 12 a externým prepínačom 2.
Stlačením a podržaním tlačidla 18 sa dostanete na stránku B (stránka PERFORMANCE):
This will give you 18 performances. Press-and-Hold Button 18 will bring you back to Page A (BROWSER page).
To see the difference between both pages I selected different colors:
– on Page A (BROWSER page) this is OFF – no color and ON – green.
– on Page B (PERFORMANCE page) this is OFF – turquoise and ON – red.
All these colors can be changed of course.
Best regards, Patrick Voes
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Takto získate 18 performance setov. Stlačením a podržaním tlačidla 18 sa vrátite na stránku A (stránka BROWSER).
Aby som videl rozdiel medzi oboma stranami, vybral som rôzne farby:
– na stránke A (strana BROWSER) je VYPNUTÁ – bez farby a ZAPNUTÁ – zelená.
– na stranke B (stránka PERFORMANCE) je VYPNUTÉ – tyrkysové a ZAPNUTÉ – červená.
Všetky tieto farby sa dajú samozrejme zmeniť.
S pozdravom, Patrick Voes
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Thank you very much for the information and I will summarize it so that I understand it all 🙂
With the system described above, PAGE A would be reserved for BROWSER mode on Kemper Profiler. In this setting, all footswitches would be used with a short press to switch rigs 1-18, with the specific rigs and their Program Change values I can set in the M-18. Switches 6, 12 and 18 would also have a push and hold mode and would work as follows:
switch 06 Bank down = switch to the lower bank set
switch 12 Bank up = switch to the higher bank set
switch 18 = switch from BROWSER to Performance mode
Switching (switch 18 = switching from BROWSER to Performance mode) would provide 18 sets – Performance (for briefly pressing the switches) and additionally for switch 18 (when pressed and held) would perform the function of returning to BROWER mode.
So, with such an overall setting, you need to omit the Control = 50 (54) values, or does it matter?
Program Change PCH: 1 – 128 will be executed only in BROWSER mode and in BROWSER mode no commands CC47 and CV 1 – 125 will be activated.
CC47 and CV (control value: 1 – 125) will only be accepted in Performance mode in MX-18 and Program Change values will not be accepted.
That is how it is???
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Ďakujem veľmi pekne za informácie a zhrniem to, aby bolo zrejmé, že som to celé pochopil 🙂
Pri vyššie popisovanom systéme by bola PAGE A vyhradená pre BROWSER mode na Kemper Profiler. V tomto nastavení by sa všetky nožné spínače používali pri krátkom stlačení pre prepnutie rigov 1 – 18 s tým, že konkrétne rigy a ich Program Change hodnoty si viem v M-18 nastaviť. Pre spínače 6, 12 a 18 by bol možný aj režim pre stlačenie a podržanie a vtedy by fungovali takto:
switch 06 Bank down = prepnutie do nižšie položenej sady – banky
switch 12 Bank up = prepnutie do vyššie položenej sady – banky
switch 18 = prepnutie z BROWSER do Performance mode
Prepnutím (switch 18 = prepnutie z BROWSER do Performance mode) by bolo k dispozícii 18 zostáv – Performance (pre krátke stlačenie spínačov) a navyše pre spínač 18 (pri stlačení a podržaní) by plnil funkciu návratu do BROWER modu.
A teda pri takomto celkovom nastavení je potrebné vynechávať čísla = (hodnoty) Control Number 50 až 54, alebo to už je jedno?
Program Change PCH: 1 – 128 bude realiziované len v BROWSER mode a v BROWSER mode nebudú akcetované žiadne príkazy CC47 a CV 1 – 125.
CC47 a CV (control Value: 1 – 125) bude zase v MX-18 akceptované len v Performance mode a naopak nebudú tu akceptované hodnoty Program Change.
Tak to je???
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Hi Marian, – Yes, that is almost correct. Only one thing: changing from BROWSER mode to PERFORMANCE mode and visa versa is only possible if you this manually on the Kemper. As far as I know, there is no way to change modes using MIDI.
The MX will change between Page A and Page B using Button 18 press-and-hold. Page A will only work in Browser mode, Page B will only work in performance mode.
Best regards, Patrick Voes
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Ahoj Marian, – Áno, to je takmer správne. Jediná vec: prechod z režimu BROWSER na režim PERFORMANCE a naopak je možné iba v prípade, že sa režim Brower / Performance prepne manuálne na zariadení Kemper. Pokiaľ viem, neexistuje spôsob, ako zmeniť režimy pomocou MIDI.
MX sa zmení medzi stránkou A a stránkou B stlačením a podržaním tlačidla 18. Stránka A bude fungovať iba v režime Brower, stránka B bude pracovať iba v režime Performance.
S Pozdravom, Patrick Voes
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No, je to takmer dokonalé, škoda, že nejte prepnúť Brower a Performance mode cez nejaký CC po MIDI. Osobne si myslím, že aj toto musia mať v Kempery nejako ošetrené a nejaký povel (v digitálnej forme) na to existuje.
Now I thought, in Kemper Profiler there is the option to assign the Pergformance Up / Down function via the foot switch – down the link to the url of my page and the bottom is: Performance Up/Down switch
https://arch.mojagitara.com/kemper-profiler-prepinace-looper-tap-tuner/
Teraz ma napadlo, v Kemper Profiler je možnosť priradiť funkciu Pergformance Up/Down cez nožný spínač – dole link na url moju stránku a úplne dole je to: Performance Up/Down switch
Hi Marian,
Be aware that all Midi controllers are Master and don’t have any clue if something is changed on the Slave.
To be more specific: If you use this function on the Kemper, the MX (or any other Midi controller) won’t know that you changed the Performance. This doesn’t have to be a bad thing. For example if you use performances on the MX and select rigs on the Kemper. However, if you want to have control of the same function (performances) on both MX switches and Kemper switches you will get conflicts.
Best regards, Patrick Voes
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Ahoj Marian,
Uvedom si, že všetky ovládače Midi sú Master a nemajú potuchy, ak sa niečo zmení na Slave.
Presnejšie povedané: Ak použijete túto funkciu na zariadení Kemper, MX (alebo akýkoľvek iný ovládač Midi) nebude vedieť, že ste zmenili Performance. To nemusí byť zlá vec. Napríklad, ak používate performances na MX a vyberiete rigy na Kempery. Ak však chcete mať kontrolu nad rovnakou funkciou (performances) na prepínačoch MX a Kemper, dostanete konflikty.
S Pozdravom, Patrick Voes
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New firmware v3.06 is now online. Biggest improvement is that the MX can now sync with the Fractal FM3. Release notes NEW: Added Device „FM3“. All commands „AFX3 – xxx“ are renamed as „AFX3/FM3 – xxx“. Added templates for FM3 in Easy Setup Tab.
NEW: „Don’t send CC values on PC“ in Global Tab.
IMP: When using „KMPR…“, „AFX1/2…“ or „AFX3/FM3…“ commands and MX Midi In is not connected to Kemper/FAS. Previously this would freeze the MX since it expects an answer from the Kemper/FAS. Now, the MX will still freeze, but the message „Time Out! Midi In Error“ will be shown. Connect Midi In and reboot the MX.
BUG: Global buttons not working correctly on PC.
BUG: Calibrating pedals on the hardware only working after second attempt.
BUG: AMP1+CAB1 channel not syncing with the AFX3/FM3.
BUG: EDITOR: Command „CC Value“: values out the range of 1-16 not accepted.
BUG: EDITOR: When Clicking on a Button, CC and Ch values not correct loaded.
IMP: EDITOR: CC and Ch values only changeable using up/down arrows. No key input allowed (errors when changing to another button)
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Nový firmvér v3.06 je teraz online.